- These are being posted early b/c of judges' schedules. It does not imply anything other than the fact that a few judges were quicker than others. That is all.
- Remember that these are all subjective.
- Remember that the judges were asked only to examine the hooks & offer critiques. Like agents & editors, degree of feedback, form of feedback, & opinions will vary.
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Hook #250
A Rumor of Dragons is a young adult high fantasy story about Ganus, a world with two unchanging faces--the frozen Nightside and the boiling Dayside. Every ten thousand years when the giant planet Zathra threatens to tear Ganus apart, majestic Dragons are born who Meld with Riders. Only together can they Turn the dimensional lines that permeate the core of the world and save Ganus from destruction.
To ensure Ganus's destruction and to gain its freedom from its prison in the core of the world, an ancient Dragon sent its minions, the Wizards, to hunt the Riders to extinction and destroy the line of the Dragons. Or so it thought.
Marc, a pampered prince born without hands, discovers that he is a Rider; K'Lal, the last Dragon, is a dwarf who cannot fly. When the ancient Dragon finds out that there is one Rider and one Dragon yet living, it sends its forces to kill the boy and the Dragon and to destroy any who might aid them. They are plunged into a world they have never known and must learn trust those they come to love while discovering the courage and strength to act when no one else can in order to defeat the ancient Dragon and save Ganus from destruction.
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The Good: The hook is competently written, concise, and free of grammatical mistakes. The world of heat and ice is an very interesting touch. And I like to root for the underdog.
The Bad: Unfortunately, there are many dragon riding stories out there, everything from Dragons of Pern to Eragon. And the
juxtaposition of Fire and Ice has been done before; an animated film
by the same name comes to mind. With so much similar material available, this one doesn't sound original enough to capture my attention.
Suggestions for improvement: Perhaps, if I had a better sense of who the prince is as a person, I would be more interested in taking a second look. As it stands now, the hook treats the main characters of the novel as secondary to worldbuilding. But the worldbuilding isn't fresh enough to carry the day. What is it that drives the prince?
Why should I care about his life and success?
Verdict: Pass.
Hook 47
Contemporary Fantasy
If one of your emotions came to life, how would you control him? What if right now your passion for books and reading were at home in the
form of a fairy-like little fellow smoking a clay pipe, and he was tearing into your unread manuscripts screaming bloody murder about objective correlatives, how would you keep him from causing trouble with your clients?
In my contemporary fantasy novel, Wotz, the reader is shown how our modern day world has been keeping secrets from us in the form of
personified emotions run amuck. It is a story of how a jaded crime scene cleaner comes to terms with his deepest self when he inherits an old family mansion and becomes host to a group of secretive creatures he must protect from a covetous relative, as well as a predatory creature who leaves torn bird wings as his calling card.
Wotz begins when Arthur Brigande inherits a Victorian mansion in New
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Conceptually, this one is interesting. The hook aspect of the entry is a bit lost in a favor of a summary. The questions at the start had promise, but they are standing apart from the rest. They're too abstract. It’s the final two sentences that engaged my interest. The earlier paragraphs evoked more of an objective intellectual interest. The final sentences made me think fun. I believe there’s something here, but I might suggest restructuring the presentation to get a reader’s attention sooner.
Hook #249
Urban Fantasy
The dead can't lie. That's the only true thing Shelby Guilfoyle knows. Everything else is conspiracy, lies, and shadow dancing. Shelby's gift
– and the reason the Council of Five recruited her – is the ability to speak with the recently deceased. It's also the reason they've hunted her down four years after she defected from the covert group. The Council promises her amnesty if she'll retrieve an important device from Jocelyn Dupree, a scientist who worked for the Council. Shelby is, typically, skeptical of the offer, and it isn't until the Council promises her answers regarding the deaths of her parents – an event for which Shelby has always blamed herself – that she agrees to the Council's plans.
When Shelby locates Jocelyn, the first thing that strikes her is that Jocelyn isn't dead. Shelby's job is usually getting the information the Council's targets thought they'd take to their graves. She discovers that Jocelyn never worked for the Council, and that they want a machine Jocelyn invented. Shelby again defies the Council by agreeing to help Jocelyn bring the device to the public's attention, a job made harder by the Council's agents, led by a man Shelby used to think she loved, sent to see both women dead. Shelby knows that the only way to get her life and Jocelyn's life back is to confront the man behind the Council of Five: Shelby's step-father – known only by the code name "Angel" – the man who killed Shelby's mother – and father in the process – who wants nothing more than to have Shelby back working for the Council.
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The Good: Excellent start, killer first sentence. Unfortunately, we go downhill from there.
The Bad: this is not a hook. It's a brief synopsis. And a confusing
synopsis at that. Sometimes it's better to leave some details out.
Because each sentence is so complex and so packed with seemingly irrelevant information, the hook fails to showcase the author in best light.
Suggestions: Because agents and editors sometimes look at dozens of hooks a day, having a confusing hook is a death sentence. I would advise hitting major points: What makes this world unique and interesting? Who is the protagonist? What does she want? Why should we care? Who wants to stop her?
Verdict: Pass.
Hook #45
Paranormal
Recipe for Disaster, New York City style:
Take one seriously toned single girl. Add a pinch of “please-God-just-kill-me-now” blind dates, a nefarious Twinkie thief, and some kick-butt vigilante justice under the cover of darkness. Mix in two handsome men: a human cop who should be off-limits and a non-human warrior who cannot be trusted. Blend violently with a killer skilled in mind-control and focused on destroying New York City . Put on a pair of Manolo Blahniks, your best little red dress, and slam it down.
Alexa Tate isn’t human. She calls herself Other. She can swim underwater without holding her breath, outrun a New York City taxicab, and scale a brick building in five seconds flat. A receptionist by day, she uses her skills to hunt down evil under the cover of night. She is stronger, faster, and more lethal than anyone she’s ever met.
Until now.
Two Others have come to town. One wants to destroy Alexa. One says he wants to save her.
Alexa believes in saving herself.
To do so, she must uncover the truth about her birthright, keep a certain handsome cop from suspecting her of crimes she may have committed, and hunt down the Others one by one.
Living in New York City can be murder.
The presentation & voice both snag my interest. The first paragraph is effective as an “eye-catching strategy.” The following paragraphs give overview & utilize pauses for tension to escalate. I like what it could indicate about the writing.
In re: plot, the story seems to have a strong MC who isn’t one of the “usual suspects” in paranormal/UF novels, a romantic thread/triangle, and good potential for action. I’d like to read more of this one. If I saw this out in the ether, I'd email my agent & tell her to check it out.
Send 5 pages to us, #45. You're moving forward to the next round!
Hook #239
Fantasy
In the land of Velanon, in the kingdom of Teravail, lies the fair city of Fenrith Lei... so begins each daring adventure told over picnic lunches on lazy summer afternoons. Stories spun first by Wendy's husband and then, after his death, by their daughter, turn the woods out back into a glimpse of Somewhere Else. It isn't until after a car accident leaves her daughter comatose that Wendy faces the woods alone, and discovers Velanon is more than just a fairy tale. Pushed unwillingly through the old stone gate, Wendy finds herself trapped in a world on the brink of destruction. Caught up in the middle of a story her daughter had been telling, Wendy must fight to finish the tale before the land of Velanon unravels into the Story Beneath. With the help of a unicorn with no horn and The Cat That Walks Alone, she sets out to vanquish the evil sorcerer that's menacing Teravail. But the more she sees, the clearer it becomes that the story Wendy is following wasn't spun by a twelve year-old.
As both friends and foes slowly revert to their ancient archetypes, Wendy must find a way to take control of the story before it's too late.
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Good: I really liked the writing within the hook itself. It had a nice flow to it. Nothing jarred me; nothing jumped out that would prevent me from enjoying the read. The writer is talented.
Bad: Unfortunately, we have seen this story before. The hook mentioned archetypes, and as it happens, the plot itself is archetypical. The protagonist entering through a portal to the new land is an overused device. Off the top of my head, I can name Alice in Wonderland, Bridge to Terabithia, Chronicles of Narnia, Dragon Knight series by Gordon R. Dickson... The list goes on. The hook did not show anything new or unique.
Suggestions: None. I wish you the best of luck!
The timing couldn't be worse for Hydeia's bonded eagle to choose her mate for her. On the trail of discovering why several Eaglekins are missing, Hydeia isn't about to let anything--or anyone--get in her way. And aren't the males of her kind supposed to be more submissive anyway?
More than anything, Hydeia wants to be accepted among her people, so breaking the tradition regarding mating is not an option, regardless of the inconvenience to her mission. She'll adhere to the strictest Eaglekin creeds to prove herself worthy of being bonded to her eagle.
Ammah can't believe his eagle has taken a mate and gotten him tangled up with another cruel-hearted Eaglekin female. He wants nothing to do with any Eaglekins or their harsh ways—learned firsthand when he was left for dead by them. But how can he turn away when the determined little fool is plunging headlong into danger?
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The Good: A clear, concise, well-written hook.
The Bad: This hook is tagged as paranormal romance, which requires excellent characterization. Unfortunately not a lot of this characterization came through in the hook. To get excited about
romance, a reader has to feel sympathy for the characters. This hook
treats the characters in a very clinical manner.
Suggestions: Perhaps if I knew what makes these two so special, it would make it easier for me to root for them. As is, the hook falls flat.
Verdict: Pass
Hook #241
YA Novel
Emma Arnett wrote a book. Well, Emelia Chase wrote a book, but really it was Emma Arnett. And no one can know that Emma is Emelia. Why? Because Autumnal Desires, the newest bodice ripper from Bliss Publications, is not really the kind of thing that Emma's AP English teacher would appreciate. But now the book is starting to climb the bestseller list, and her friends are starting to read it. And before she knows it, Emma's book is going down in flames, literally, as her mother teams with the librarians to wage a war on indecency and bans
her own daughter's book. Not that she knows her daughter wrote it. But a pseudonym can only stay a pseudonym for so long when the media is starting to pay attention. When your mother thinks your wildly popular book is smut, your teachers are banning and burning it left and right, and you need to study for chemistry, what in the hell is a girl supposed to do?
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Good: Clear and competent writing, excellent focus on main conflict.
Bad: This is one of those mysterious "Didn't Grab" hooks. There is nothing technically wrong with it. Unfortunately, there is nothing exceptionally good about it either. Hundreds of bodice rippers are on
the shelves every day, yet there are very few book burnings. There
must be something very special about this book to prompt such a severe reaction. But the hook doesn't even hint at what it is. Same with the heroine: Emma must be one special girl to have written such a book, but again the hook doesn't tell why.
Suggestions: What makes this work unique and unlike anything else out there? If the author showed a little more passion and let the book's personality shine through, perhaps the verdict would be different.
Verdict: Pass
Hook 60
Genre: Fantasy
Cabe, a brash, illiterate 17 year old, has just been conscripted into a troop of rangers. They hunt a terrorist in a fantasy world that doesn't yet know the word "terrorist": the renegade elf, Westwater Greeneyes. Desperate for adventure and glory, Cabe gladly leaves his small town behind. He finds the adventure he seeks, but experiences tragedy along the way when he finds victims of Westwater's followers closer to home than he had ever expected.
To make matters worse, the rangers who Cabe fights alongside do not share the values that Cabe so firmly believes in. He is torn between admiring and reviling his companions, who violate the Teachings but yet are courageous and skilled. The rangers use poison, visit prostitutes, and once even resort to torture, or so Cabe suspects. He struggles to maintain his sense of honor in the face of all this as he heads toward the final, violent confrontation with Westwater where Cabe must decide if killing his enemy the honorable way, as opposed to his fellow rangers' plan, is worth risking his life.
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The second sentence is confusing. By structure the information after the colon is to be the world not the terrorist. This hook doesn’t offer a voice or tension. It offers a plot, characters, & that the MC struggles with issues of identity and honor. All of these might be executed well in text, but your hook doesn’t show this. Capture the reader. Show us your voice.
Hook 63
Lizzie Greene was dropped on her head by her mother. That's why she's never lived up to her potential.
Bankrupt, divorced and homeless, Lizzie moves in with her sister Gina (the daughter who DOES live up to her potential) to help care for their senile father.
Lizzie is trying to get her life together without losing her mind or her new job, when her client Ralph, tells her about a theft he witnessed and asks for her help. Lizzie reluctantly agrees. It's not like Ralph can go to the cops…he's a miniature schnauzer.
Pretending to be a psychic with information about the case, Lizzie inserts herself into the investigation, arousing the suspicions (and temper) of Detective Ryan Post. Lizzie of course is not a psychic. She's a witch, albeit an extraordinarily inept one (that whole dropped on her head/potential thing). Her only real talent is her ability to communicate with animals.
When the clues (supplied by neighborhood pets) Lizzie "senses" start adding up, cynical Detective Post finds himself relying on the psychic/pet sitter to help solve the case and catch a ring of thieves, but when her sister disappears and her father's addled ramblings start to make sense Lizzie starts to worry that the crimes are being committed by a group of rogue Magic Makers.
Investigating her sister's disappearance with the detective (while trying to prevent him from finding out that magic exists) Lizzie realizes she's stumbled onto a plan to shift the balance of magical power in the world and that there's little time to stop it.
Lizzie must team up with her feeble-minded dad, the skeptical (but sexy) human detective and a pack of domesticated pets to rescue her sister, thwart the plan and save the world.
She'd like to do it on a good hair day....
Mystery/Thriller
I think there’s a bit too much going on here which leads to the plot sounding more convoluted than perhaps it is. In terms of the hook, I wasn’t sure if the “dropped on her head” bit was to be funny or serious. As I continued on, I couldn’t determine what the tone was intended to be. On one hand, some facts seem light (dropped or her head, her informant being a dog), but on the other hand some facts seem more serious (ailing father, kidnapped sister). I think a clarity of tone is the best recommendation—whether it’s in the hook or the plot, I’m not sure.
Hook #230
Science Fiction
Mags Jennings is a veterinarian trapped on her family farm because of an alien invasion. The slave-making aliens destroyed all of Earth's
national governments and most of the infrastructure. Because they also shoot all road traffic from low orbit, the Malgorab have trapped Mags' brother and his family on the same farm. The only thing the Jennings family can do is revert to frontier living and hope for the best. Now the Malgorab have really ticked Mags off. One of their lost pets showed up at the Jennings farm like an abandoned dog. Now, the alien Big-Ass Worm, BAW for short, is making their life a lot harder than it needs to be.
Like Earth's abused canines, the alien pet doesn't trust strangers. Unlike dogs, this particular alien is an armored worm the size of
three semis parked end to end. It's also intelligent, has a plan to overthrow the Malgorab, and is searching for an ally on a strange world. However, the alien "dog" can't communicate on Human and Malgorab vocal frequencies. It does see on the same light frequencies. The BAW takes exception to the penned up animals -- dogs and chickens -- and tries to liberate its "fellow slaves" with mixed results.
"Obedience Training" is a first contact story where an alien "animal" with a mission meets a stubborn veterinarian-cum-farmer who just wants to be left alone to do what she does best -- training stray dogs.
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Good: Unique. Nothing quite like it out there. The idea of an alien pet harassing a farm in an effort to liberate animals is intriguing.
Bad: This hook has some issues. Unfortunately, if an alien invasion devastated most of the Earth, the problem of a pesky alien pet would seem very small by comparison to larger issues, such as world famine, lack of basic necessary goods, such as clothes, medicine, gas, and so
on, and world-wide slavery. A great tragedy has just occurred.
Millions have died. The hook fails to acknowledge it, treating this tragedy in a somewhat campy manner. Is there resistance? What do the aliens really want? How can the characters overthrow the aliens?
These are the questions that immediately spring to mind. The matter of a very large worm seems trivial by comparison.
Verdict: Pass.
More hooks to come as days go forward. . . .
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Especially #45 - that is exactly the kind of UF I like to read.
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That said, here are my thoughts:
#250: Nightside and Dayside sound intriguing, and you could do a lot with that. But when you mention the planet Zathra, and dragons melding with riders, you lost me. It sounds too out there and yet a little too commonplace at the same time. Definitely some creative ideas sprinkled in here, though.
#47: Another cool idea. The scenario in the first paragraph seems a little too aspiring-author-specific, though. Then the second paragraph strikes me as way too broad, again like you are writing a thesis or something. If it were me, I would just begin with "Arthur Brigande inherits. . ." and work in the other material as you go (and in truth, a lot of the material is rehashed in that paragraph, anyway). Using the word Wotz as the name of the book should be done in italics or preferably all caps, too, to avoid confusion with the use of the word as a noun within your text. I was reading very quickly, and this was confusing for me.
#249: I don't have anything to add beyond what the judge said. I agree totally with his/her notes.
#45: The recipe angle of your first paragraph seems cutesy to me, but I'm obviously not in your target audience. That part bugs me, but the underlying ideas are very intriguing—and your voice is undeniably good. It gets a lot more interesting to me after that first paragraph, in any case.
#239: "In the land of [X], in the kingdom of [Y], lies the fair city of [Z]" seems really overdone. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't grab me. Then you reveal that this is a frame story, apparently, and that really loses me. My opinion is that you should start with more of a focus on what makes this unique (because surely something is, you write so well), and avoid the parts that are clichés. The ideas that you present at the last are interesting, but you had already lost me long before there. I get the feeling that this is the sort of thing that I would like to read, but the hook itself just doesn't sell me on it.
#243: The judge is spot on again, and I have very little to add. I just don't see these two characters as actual individuals, right now. The tone strikes me as something like a Greek or Roman myth—you know the level of detachment I mean? I presume that the book itself isn't written that way, so I think the advice to keep closer to your characters is really good.
#241: I have to disagree with the judge on this one, actually. I really like the sound of this one a lot, even though it's not in my normal reading milieu. To me, this was the most intriguing hook out of this first batch, actually, but there you go: tastes differ. The judge does have excellent points about the fact that there are hundreds of bodice rippers, and very few book burnings, though. Is this book perhaps targeted at a YA audience? Is it perhaps known that the book is written by a juvenile who remains anonymous? Even in rural or puritanical areas, this sort of thing would just be ignored if there wasn't something unusual that made it worse than usual. That aside, the idea itself of the girl's precarious situation is very drawing for me—and to me, the fact that she is a published writer while still in grade school says enough about how unique she is. But all of that is just my opinion.
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#60: Brash, illiterate 17 year-olds are not my prime reading topic. There is some odd wording here, as the judge notes, and I never really feel like the protagonist is someone that I would identify with. The conflict mentioned at the end is moderately drawing, but not fleshed-out enough to be really unique. This could be an interesting character study, perhaps, but the hook doesn’t make it sounds quite that way.
#63: The judge says it all. There’s just too much, and too many different elements that aren’t tied together clearly in the hook. It seems like this could be much stronger if it was somewhat more brief and a lot more consistent in tone and voice.
#230: I’m guessing that this is supposed to be humorous, like a Douglas Adams story, but that doesn’t really come across in the tone of your hook. I think the judge was reading this as serious, and that makes it sound a lot more like a B sci-fi TV movie. This could be really enjoyable if done well, but the tone and voice of your book need to come across more in your hook.
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I do think that the 'dropped on her head' bit is used too much, perhaps eliminate it from the hook altogether, or else use it once in comparison to her sister who is 'together'. I also would like to know that she's an inept witch sooner too -- maybe in the same place, i.e.
Lizzie's sister has it all together: a big house, a nice car, a solid career. In comparison to her, Lizzie's life is a shambles! But, she's got one thing her sister hasn't got -- her
vocation as a witch (albeit, an inept one) has enabled her to talk to animals -- a skill which proves to be very useful when her life is suddenly turned upside down by... (etc)
Anyways, all suggestions, take them or leave them - but good luck with it!
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The others were interesting -- simply to see all the unique ways of creating stories, but I wanted either more info, more clarity, or something to really make them different than everything else I've read.
April 17 2007, 21:48:00 UTC 5 years ago
I had a hook passed and the comments about why were informative. Thanks.
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Grrrr....
Stupid procrastination. This looks completely fun! Well, in a masochistic sort of way. It's helpful just reading them, though.And #45 is really good, I agree. I'd read it.
Looking forward to the next batch.
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And a thousand thanks for the comments on my own (#239)! I've been trying to rework it so that the fact that the cliched elements are cliched on purpose, but alas, I have failed again. *pokes hook* Ah well, better to learn now how to fix it before I send the poor thing out for real. ^_^
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Thanks for the comments.
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April 17 2007, 22:39:58 UTC 5 years ago
#241
This plot is a little far-fetched--a lot far-fetched. I actually saw something on the disney channell that this reminded me of. If it is going for the disney channell audience, then that's okay, but I just don't see teenagers publishing books like that.April 17 2007, 23:17:02 UTC 5 years ago
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Hee, really? Mine wasn't publishable by a long shot, but I certainly tried my hand at "books like that" around that age.Anonymous
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April 17 2007, 22:41:25 UTC 5 years ago
I also really like the idea behind #241. Try to bring more unique specifics into the hook, and I think you might have that'll pop. Keep working on it!
April 17 2007, 23:23:27 UTC 5 years ago
#239 is just the opposite for me - not a brilliantly catchy hook, but sounds like exactly the sort of book I'd run out and buy. I don't think agree with the "nothing fresh and new" part, either. Sure, blended myth/fairytale stories aren't unheard of, but it's all in what you throw in the blender, right?
Just goes to show how subjective the whole thing is.
Alas (or yay?), in just these couple of hooks I've already got a premonition of what the response to mine is going to be. I guess I'm up to twenty thousand things that don't really work, and still zero that do...
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April 17 2007, 23:45:11 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #250
With my first read-through, I have to say that I agree with the judge. I instantly thought of all the other books that I have read that have the same elements. I could list them, but I think the author of the hook can agree that there are several similarities there.But on the second read through (because I wanted to look at it again and see what could make this book 'different' despite it's similiarities) I saw this:
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To ensure Ganus's destruction and to gain its freedom from its prison in the core of the world, an ancient Dragon sent its minions, the Wizards, to hunt the Riders to extinction and destroy the line of the Dragons.
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This piece here, along with the bit about the handless prince is what sets it apart. What I really want to know now, though, are these things:
1. Is the planet half fire and half ice for a reason? (i.e. it's integral to your plot) or just because you thought it was cool? If it's just because you thought it was cool, consider getting rid of it, because it might just clutter up the story (from the sound of your hook, anyways).
2. Why is the dragon imprisoned in the core of the earth? Who put him there? How long has he been there? Why are the wizards enslaved to him?
3. Why does the prince have no hands? Again, is there a purpose to this (plot-wise)? Or did you make him a cripple because you were trying for the opposite of what everyone expected? (i.e. as different from Eragon as you could make him... a prince not a pauper, a cripple and not a perfect athletic speciman, a puny dragon and not the beautiful Saphira, etc.)
I think if you can answer these questions, you will have a better idea of why your hook didn't work.
Good luck!
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April 18 2007, 00:35:33 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Hook #250
Having been procrastinating a lot lately, I've seen another version of this hook elsewhere on the net. I think the hook is better this time around.My advice is to push the more unique elements (as suggested by the comment above) and pull back on the bits that make it sound like Pern. Dragons bonding with riders makes people think Pern, so I think you need to tone down the other similarities. And that's hard, because McCaffrey has done everything. She did the runt dragon that wasn't supposed to survive let alone succeed. Todd McCaffrey did the blind girl teaming up with another kind of runt dragon. Using a Pern-like apostrophized name may not be a wise choice, either, even though you've made it the dragon rather than the rider.
I mention these because it occurs to me that some people actually haven't read every word ever written about Pern, which means you might quite honestly not know what specific elements sound familiar.
I wish you luck, because anyone who loves dragons is all right with me.
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April 17 2007, 23:54:16 UTC 5 years ago
As a more general comment... I think that one thing a lot of aspiring fantasy writers (not just the ones represented here) struggle with is how to express what sets their story apart--while still crafting a hook that reads concisely and makes sense. The problem with world-building descriptions is that very, very few fantasy ideas are original nowadays. Besides, even a story in a setting we've seen before can feel totally fresh if the characters & twists are compelling.
It's often difficult to get across the gist of the main conflict without making it sound more flat and cliche than it really is. (After all, one can't really add "PS: this or that subplot / this or character detail keeps my work from being like everything else out there" in a hook.)
I agree with all the judges' comments I've read so far, btw. It'd be easy for me to read something and say "Pass" without quite being able to articulate why I wasn't interested. Kudos on clearly pinpointing some helpful issues.
April 18 2007, 17:40:14 UTC 5 years ago
Too bad, because it'd be a lot easier that way.
April 18 2007, 00:15:35 UTC 5 years ago
I use the term "Others" in my hook. Now I wonder if I should change it to something more original.
#241 made me smile. Probably a diamond in the rough. In fact, I think a lot of these have potential, particularly the ones with originality.
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April 18 2007, 03:42:05 UTC 5 years ago
It's taken a lot of work to learn how to write a hook that showcased my novel well.
If I can learn it, anyone can. :)
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April 18 2007, 00:39:21 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #249
While I think that this hook has merit -- one thing jumped out at me and left me with a glaring question... If Shelby can talk with the dead -- why can't she talk to her parents (and find out what happened to them) herself?Along with tightening up, I thnk that you should allude to the fact that she can't talk to them - no matter what the reason is, so that the editor or agent doesn't see this as some sort of gaping plot hole.
Other than that, I liked the tone -- this one feels dark -- and that's what I like.
Good luck!
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April 18 2007, 05:21:11 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Hook #249
When you're limited to 300 words, things get cut and things get smashed together that maybe shouldn't be. The pages are much better than this hook (severely edited as it is from the original) shows, but no one will ever know that, obviously. While I got dinged for too much detail, you should see the things I cut! There's a ton of stuff going on in this book, but it all works together somehow.But thanks for the encouraging words. I really appreciate them.
April 18 2007, 00:43:09 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #47
This book sounds fun. It does, I love the emotions running amok as little mischievous guys... love it!But your hook sort of wanders around. Overall, I agree with the judge and think that if you simply cut the second paragraph all together and revise from there, you will definitely be on to something.
Good luck!
April 18 2007, 00:47:18 UTC 5 years ago
#249
Congrats to #45! Looking forward to the pages.#249: I agree that the hook was a little info heavy, (something I sympathize with), but the premise is one that would draw me to the book. If the elements I picked up from the hook were in a concise blurb form on the back of the novel, I could see going home with it. So keep working it until you've nailed it and someone picks it up. I'll keep an eye out at Borders. :)
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April 18 2007, 05:25:04 UTC 5 years ago
Re: #249
Thank you so very much for the kind words. Like I said in another reply regarding my hook, being limited to 300 words makes you create some sentences that are... um... rather weighty.But, again, thank you so much for the kind words. I certainly plan to keep plugging away. Luckily, with most agents, they want to see some sample writing, so that may save me, in the end, since I stink at queries. :)
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April 18 2007, 01:05:22 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #243
The first thing that jumped to mind when I read this hook was: "What are Eaglekins? baby eaglets?" then I thought, "Wow, Eaglekins pops up a lot... too much"I think that using other descriptive words in place of using Eaglekin so often would help with this, such as you did by using 'bonded eagle'. Maybe in the first sentence you could eliminate some of this confusion by saying '...Hydeia's bonded eagle, her Eaglekin, to choose...'
I also think that the mated pairing bit could be a little more clear -- I didn't get it until the very last paragraph that the Eagles choose the mates and the humans are stuck with the choice...
Another part that I thought odd was the last bit:
Ammah can't believe his eagle has taken a mate and gotten him tangled up with another cruel-hearted Eaglekin female.
If he's bonded to an Eagle.. then what other type of mate would he get? Of course it would be an eaglekin female, right?
What I did like about the hook was the idea behind people bonded to eagles -- that's interesting to me and while it reminds me a slight bit of the Dragonriders of Pern, I think there's enough different there that you could really run with it.
I also agree though, that we need more 'personality' to show through about the characters you're talking about, and less observations about them. As the judge remarked, Romance won't work if the reader can't get inside the character's skin/mind.
Good Luck!
April 18 2007, 01:14:31 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #60
There isn't anything really wrong with this hook, though it does seem to echo more of a synopsis than something to 'hook' me into reading it.I did enjoy the following (it made me crack a smile):
'The rangers use poison, visit prostitutes, and once even resort to torture' -- (lions and tigers and bears, oh my!) (just kidding) because I could see how such debauchery could cause an innocent like Cabe to shudder! And this is where I think the heart of your hook lies. If this one little piece can make me smile, then imagine what it could do if you expanded on it a bit. Stop telling me Cabe's life story -- and instead show me what it's like through his eyes.
Good luck!
April 18 2007, 01:28:19 UTC 5 years ago
Hook #230
I think this should (or something like it) be the opener:"Obedience Training" is a first contact story where an alien "animal" with a mission meets a stubborn veterinarian-cum-farmer who just wants to be left alone to do what she does best -- training stray dogs.
But be sure to include (if it is indeed) 'humorous' in there somewhere, such as 'humorous first contact story' -- because this will set your audience up to roll with your punches.
As for the hook itself, I don't care what the difference is between Mags and her family being trapped on the farm - only that they *are*. In a synopsis I might care about their different methods for being there, but here... no. Think 'Less is More' in this case. ALso, I don't actually care that the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket with these alien invaders -- because you are telling me a silly story -- so here you can convey that in your hook by saying simply, "Mags could give a rip what was happening in the rest of the world, because since the aliens landed there's been chaos in her own back yard" (or some such). And voila -- you have now dismissed chaos everywhere else to let us know that this story is a very 'local' point of view and doesn't concern itself much with anything outside of Mags' veterinary haven.
Overall though, aside from your hook being a bit meandering, you still managed to grab my attention with the uniqueness of your story idea and that is GOOD. I think that a giant alien worm-dog causing mischief sounds like a grand idea for a silly book. But you really need to tighten up the narrative alot (there's some redundnacy there, and a few places where you could combine whole sentences with only a few added words on the end of a different one). Try deleting every other sentence and taking a look at what you have left and see if that doesn't jog some ideas.
Good luck!
April 18 2007, 19:47:02 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Hook #230
Thanks for your comments. I do have a question for you. Would a hook written in first person be annoying or off putting?The story is written in first person. My other hook is in first person, too, and it's very, very different. Mags is a bit irascible, as characters go, and that comes out.
Normally, I only do third person POV so this first person stuff is unexplored territory.
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April 18 2007, 02:02:15 UTC 5 years ago
Next Hooks
I was wondering if you all might have some idea when the next group of hooks are going to be posted? (Not in a rush or anything...really.) I just want to quite obsessing about checking back here again.Thanks.
April 18 2007, 02:13:56 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Next Hooks
As she who posted this batch, I will say probably not before Thursday. At least 2 (poss all 4) of us are out of our offices during the day tomorrow. There's a slim chance one of my intrepid co-mods will log in to our joint acct (fff_contest) on a lunch break or in the evening, but I don't truly see that as a realistic thing.I'd say Thursday is the next most likely time.
Melissa Marr
PS Obsessing is good. It's why some of these are early ;)
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April 18 2007, 03:01:09 UTC 5 years ago
#47: Great idea!
The hook doesn't work well, and I suspect it's because you don't really know how to write a hook. I'd suggest chopping the first paragraph of "What if...?" questions and the second paragraph of "My book is about..." statements. Then shave "Wotz begins when" off the third paragraph and ta-da! You have a hook.
However, it's still not a very zippy hook. Buff and polish as necessary.
#249: Exact same comment as I made for #250; sorry.
#45: I agree with a previous poster that I thought this would work better without paragraphs 1 and 2. Everything after that is top notch, however.
#239: This does have a nice flow to it, although the first time I read it, I found the style a bit frustrating and hard to decipher. My main complaint is that the hook is first of all vague, and secondly all setup; we don't find out anything of substance about the plot.
I personally think this story sounds quite a bit fresher than standard magic portal stories. However, I want to know more about what happens, not just why it all began happening.
#243: I found the jump from Hydeia to Ammah confusing, simply because Hydeia got two paragraphs. There was nothing to warn me that another character's introduction was imminent.
I think this hook would be improved by chopping paragraph two entirely and then adding a third paragraph that describes some of the romantic tension and plot points that come after the two characters meet.
#241: Great idea, and it sounds like you've got a fun novel!
I also found the logic of the events described a bit problematic. If you worked to smooth those out in your hook, I think you'd have something very catchy here. I liked this better than the judge did.
#60: Exact same comment as I made for #250; sorry.
#63: This is another one I liked quite a bit more than the judge did. I thought the hook was funny and worked well. Finding out the informant was a dog really hooked my attention, and I found I got more and more interested the further I read.
I wonder if this one might be a case of "Your mileage may vary." There might be an agent out there who would love this hook exactly as it is.
#230: Great idea! However, I'd make the same comment for this one as I did for #250. I would also say that you focus a bit too much on setup and not enough on what happens in the book.
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April 19 2007, 17:23:36 UTC 5 years ago
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